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Wednesday April 14th, 2021 with Carolyn
This week, we'll be listening to my interview with Frances McCormack, discussing vegan advocacy, the word "carnism", and the importance of staying true to the vegan ethic even in difficult social situations.

This week’s episode features my recent interview with the abolitionist vegan advocate Frances McCormack, who has been a vegan since 2010* and promotes the Abolitionist Approach to Animal Rights. In this interview, Frances tells me about the experiences that led her to become a vegan and find out about the Abolitionist Approach. We also discuss the role of asking questions in vegan advocacy conversations, how we can reflect on our progress as vegan advocates without using false measures of “success”, whether the concept of “carnism” helps or hinders discussions about veganism and animal rights, and why it’s important for vegans to promote veganism as a moral baseline and stay true to our ethical values, despite any social pressure to do otherwise. Thanks to Frances for being a guest on the show! * Coincidentally, 2010 is also the year that I became a vegan.
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