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David Dalle
Thursday December 5th, 2024 with David Dalle
30 for 30 with Bruckner Symphony No. 8

There is probably a lot of variety in "greatest symphony" for Beethoven or Mahler scholars, Beethoven's 3rd or 9th, Mahler's 2nd or 8th etc. I am sure there are champions for each of those nine symphonies. But for Bruckner scholars, there is probably a very firm consensus: Bruckner's 8th. Usually, Bruckner would begin his next symphony as soon as he was finished the previous. This was true with the 8th, begun in 1884 shortly after the 7th was premiered. He completed the work in 1887 and he sent the score to the famous conductor Hermann Levi, who had conducted the second performance of the 7th in Munich which had proved to be the biggest triumph of Bruckner's career. However, Levi returned the score claiming he didn't understand it. This was an enormous set back to Bruckner. He spent the next several years both rewriting the 8th and furiously revisioning his earlier symphonies. This actually had some positive results as his reworking of the 8th, finished in 1890, had some inspired improvements. The 8th symphony's closest inspiration is Beethoven's 9th, but is unlike any other symphony composed in the 19th century. (It is fascinating that the enormous influence and power of Beethoven's symphony had such radically different impact. Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique was composed just 6 years after the 9th's premiere, and directly influenced by it, but was nothing like Beethoven, nor indeed Bruckner's symphonies!) The first movement rises tentatively out of the mists, with no hint of the c minor tonality of the symphony. It moves searchingly through three major thematic sections, rising to great climaxes then subsiding. Bruckner's critics simply could not understand his symphonic logic, this was drastically different from the conventional symphonic logic of Brahms or Schuman. Bruckner was unique in his idiosyncratic symphonic writing, and no one before Bruckner was writing symphonies on such a cosmic, grand scale! The first movement eventually settles on c minor, surging to an enormous climax in C major, but with a searing dissonance. This is cut off, and the first movement, in the 1890 version, ends pianissimo in a bleak c minor--the only 1st movement of a Bruckner symphony ending quietly. Bruckner places the scherzo second--not the only connection to Beethoven's 9th--and it provides a necessary respite from the emotionally draining 1st movement and the enormous adagio which follows. The glorious, rolling outer parts surround the beautiful trio, where Bruckner introduces harps for the first time in one of his symphonies in a passage of aching beauty. The adagio is the grandest symphonic slow movement composed by anyone at that time, eclipsing all of Bruckner's previous slow movements and any other previous composer with perhaps the exception of the adagio from Beethoven's 9th. A very slowly unfolding rapturous and ecstatic movement. Like Bruckner's faster outer movements, it builds speed and tension into enormous climaxes, but it does so at a glacial pace. However, the momentum is colossal, it is the movement of tectonic plates moving almost imperceptibly, but building to Earth-shattering tension. This movement in D-flat builds up to a turbulent, massive climax leading up to the expectation of a giant perfect cadence in E-flat (which is the relative major of c minor, so pointing it homewards to the symphony's key), but instead Bruckner leads it to a huge, shocking interrupted cadence in C flat major. The music falls away and slowly drifts to the end in beautiful mystical consolation. The enormous finale begins firmly in c minor with thunderous, rhythmic pounding. A tremendous energy which soon dissipates, and afterwards, most of the movement is about rebuilding that energy leading to the magnificent coda. Bruckner very subtly alludes to themes from the previous three movements as he moves into the coda where we finally move into C major. The final blazing C major apotheosis begins quietly, with the strings and the horns playing a mournful tune building quickly and irrevocably to the end. As I have written before about the 8th, there is nothing more conventional in European common practice than to end a minor key piece in its major key, but nowhere has it been so colossal, so glorious, so transcendent as in this symphony. The coda is a supreme moment in orchestral music. Bruckner's 8th is a huge labyrinth, ranging from exquisite delicate moments to huge chasms of sound. It is hard to absorb it all in a single listening. It rewards a lifetime of listening. Unlike the other symphonies in the cycle, where we heard primarily great German and Austrian Bruknerians like Furtwängler, Gunter Wand, Georg Tintner, Karajan, Karl Bohm, we will hear a live recording with the French Modernist composer and conductor Pierre Boulez. As a conductor, Boulez almost exclusively conducted 20th century music. His single recording of Bruckner was an anomaly. Boulez was invited to conduct the Vienna Philharmonic at the St. Florian Cathedral in Linz during the 1996 Bruckner centennial year international Bruckner festival. Bruckner was a choir boy and later an organist at St. Florian and is also buried in the cathedral's crypt directly below his favourite organ. Boulez uses the 1939 Haas edition which is actually a mix of the original 1887 and 1890 versions and I find to be the best version musically. This recording was the first one I heard of Bruckner's 8th and remains my favourite recording of the work. The live orchestral sound is incredible, Boulez's pacing and understanding of the symphony's architecture and narrative is wonderful. So I am including it in my 30 for 30 recordings.
Symphony No. 8 in c minor
Anton Bruckner/Wiener Philharmoniker, Pierre Boulez - Symphony No. 8 - Deutsche Grammophon
Celebration of my 30 years on-air at CKCU with 30 of the most significant albums in my musical evolution, the 30 for 30 albums heard so far:
1. Lustmord "The Monstrous Soul" Side Effects
2. Ludwig Van Beethoven/Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert Von Karajan et al. "Symphony No. 9" Deutsche Grammophon
3. Doudou N'Diaye Rose "Djabote" Realworld
4. Julius Eastman/Lutoslawski Piano Duo with Joanna Duda, Mischa Kozlowski "Unchained" Dux
5. The Master Musicians of Jajouka featuring Bachir Attar "Apocalypse Across The Sky" Axiom
6. Ustad Bismillah Khan & Party "Shehnai Recital" EMI India
7. Franz Liszt/Claudio Arrau "12 Etudes d'exécution transcendante" Philips
8. Ludwig Van Beethoven transcribed Franz Liszt/Cyprien Katsaris "Symphony No. 9" Teldec
9. Malek Masoudi "Mandir" Shahram
10. Shahram Nazeri "Aatash Dar Neystaan" Shahram
11. Kayhan Kalhor "Scattering Stars Like Dust" Traditional Crossroads
12. Goran Bregovic "Underground" Polygram
13. Kocani Orkestar "A Gypsy Brass Band" Long Distance
14. Misia "Garras Dos Sentidos" Erato
15. Goran Bregovic & Alkistis Protopsalti "Paradehtika" Polygram
16. Tabu Ley Rochereau "Muzina" Rounder
17. Kronos Quartet "Pieces of Africa" Nonesuch
18. Toumani Diabate & Ballake Sissoko "New Ancient Strings" Rykodisc
19. Toumani Diabate's Symmetric Orchestra "Boulevard de L'independance" World Circuit
20. Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan & Party "Shahbaaz" Realworld
21. Sheikh Yasin Al-Tuhami "The Magic of the Sufi Inshad" Long Distance
22. Brave Old World "Blood Oranges" Pinorrekk Records
23. Alfred Schnittke/Gidon Kremer, Tatiana Gridenko, The Chamber Orchestra of Europe, Heinrich Schiff "Concerto Grosso No. 1" Deutsche Grammophon
24. Keith Jarrett "Vienna Concert" ECM
25. Shankar "Raga Aberi" Music of the World
26. Ghazal "As Night Falls On The Silk Road" Shanachie
27. Lubomyr Melnyk "Song of Galadriel" Bandura Records
28. Ludwig Van Beethoven/Sviatoslav Richter "Brahms/Beethoven" BMG
29. Anton Bruckner/Wiener Philharmoniker, Pierre Boulez Deutsche Grammophon
Just as Bruckner's 8th stretches back to Beethoven's 9th, I find it is closely related to Mahler's 6th 14 years in the future. Mahler's 6th, completed in 1904, shares so much with Bruckner's 8th. The symphonies are almost brothers-in-arms. With one essential, drastic difference, after enormous struggle, Bruckner's 8th ends in blazing transcendence. After enormous struggle, Mahler's 6th ends in utter catastrophe. But it could have ended like the Bruckner, all the musical ingredients were present... Two of my favourite symphonies. I should program Boulez magnificent recording soon, also with the Vienna Philharmonic. Here is a short orchestral song by Mahler in an a cappella arrangement by Ottawa/Toronto choral composer David Rain. "Ging heut' morgen über's Feld" ("I Went This Morning over the Field") from Mahler's "Songs of a Wayfarer". This orchestral song was premiered in 1896, the year of Bruckner's death. Mahler also used it as a theme in the 1st movement of his 1st symphony.
"Ging heut' morgen über's Feld" for a cappella
Gustav Mahler arr. David Rain/Rocky Mountain Chamber Choir - Songs of a Wayfarer Canadian
Pembe pembe
Kocani Orkestar - Gypsy Mambo - Yeni Dunya Muzik
Picked up this new Record Store Day release with a live recording of Cecil Taylor with saxophonist Jimmy Lyons and drummer Sunny Murray at the Montremartre Cafe in Copenhagen in 1962. Delicious!
Nefertiti, The Beautiful One Has Come
Cecil Taylor, Jimmy Lyons, Sunny Murray - Live At The Cafe Montmartre - DA Music New
Salif Keita will be releasing a new album next April! On No Format, they released a single from it today for No Format club members, of which yours truly is a member. :) A short acoustic tribute to the late Kanté Manfila, friend and mentor to Salif who died in 2011. A special sneak preview for my listeners today! Followed by a track recorded from their acoustic album recorded in the 80's in Abidjan.
Kanté Manfila
Salif Keita - So Kono (pre-release single) - No Format New
Djigui
Salif Keita & Kante Manfila - The Lost ALbum - White Swan Records
Interactive CKCU
Bobby Calzone
Alright, more Bruckner! The 8th!!! I will always remember when I discovered this as a teen in my friend André Lepine's basement , Petit Chanteur De Montréal, pianist, organist at the Oratory, student of Raymond Daveluy. Alas, I never took him up on learning harmony, which I regret to this day. However I may still enjoy listening. Your faithful listener

2:11 PM, December 5th, 2024
David Dalle (host)
Without knowing theory of harmony, you still hear the harmony, you will still hear the grinding dissonances, the shocking interrupted cadence at the end of the adagio, the movement from c minor through several keys to the grand C major conclusion! You will hear it all, lack of theory just means you wouldn't be able to name what's going on in technical terms. The music is still heard!

2:28 PM, December 5th, 2024
David Dalle (host)
Brahms' 4th symphony was composed just a couple years before Bruckner's 8th. I simply can't understand listening to a Brahms symphony over Bruckner...

3:17 PM, December 5th, 2024
Bobby Calzone
Oof!

3:24 PM, December 5th, 2024
Bobby Calzone
Have you ever been to an organ concert at St-Josephs oratory in montreal? David, I must tell you this anecdote. I remember one time, Andre played Black Sabbath in the middle of Bach and what not as a clin d'oeuil... it was hilarious! I was the only one down in the audience who got it. :)

3:44 PM, December 5th, 2024
David Dalle (host)
No I haven't. I imagine André Lepine was a fine improviser? Many organists are! Bruckner was famous in his life for his organ playing, particularly his improvisations. Sadly we have no recordings or transcripts, and oddly he never composed anything for organ.

3:52 PM, December 5th, 2024
David Rain
Thanks for having me and my Mahler song on the program, David, I'm indeed honoured. Especially, with Bruckner 8 as my "warm up" act. :) Ah Bruckner, the 8th is indeed special, and oh how I love that Scherzo. Interesting that this is recorded at St Florian, where I visited a decade ago, what a great acoustic it has. And interesting you link B8 with M6. I actually heard Boulez conduct M6 at Carnegie Hall in 2009, he and Barenboim split up the complete symphonies, with Dresden Staatskapelle Orchestra. Superb. But I had no idea Boulez was a "minimalist" conductor, no outward emotion at all, very tiny hand and body movements. Fascinating. Happy 30th, by the way, onward to 60!

7:40 PM, December 5th, 2024
Mike
30 for thirty - most fantastic ;)

12:40 PM, December 10th, 2024