Alejandro Quite interesting show, ladies. However, I just want to right the notion of intersectionality that you offered.
Everybody experiences intersectional lives, not only Black people (as per you affirmation that no one should identify as "intersectional" if someone is not a Black woman). This is a misreading of intersectionality. White people have also intersectional lives (i.e. they are white, and (dis)abled, and (un)educated, come from a particular social class, have certain age, have certain sexual orientation and a gender identification, have certain ethnicity; they have access to certain resources and power, etc.). All of these axes differently intersect with each other at various levels, dimensions, circumstances, etc. The same applies to every single person in this world, be it Black, Brown, etc. So, affirming that the root of intersectionality is to "identiying as a Black woman" is incorrect. It is also incorrect to say that someone can identify or not as "intersectional." Everybody experiences intersectionality, but we are not "intersectional." Affirming that someone is intersectional but not others, takes us back to the creation of more identity labels (such as in "Black" women are intersectional, but brown women are not"). Crenshaw's intention was never to develop the notion of intersectionality as another identity label for only Black women. Rather, it was to understand how whiteness operates in social milieus vis-a-vis the social construction of Others under ethnic/racial categories that interact with other elements such as access to power, race/ethnicity, sexuality, gender, etc., and the correspondingly hierarchization of race/ethnicity.
11:23 AM, June 18th, 2017
Samantha (Host) Hey Alejandro,
I understand what you're trying to say, however when Intersectional feminism has and will always be, at the root, in reference to Black x Women. It was created by Crenshaw to bring attention to how Black Women were/are treated and identify/name the disparity in our lives in comparison to others.
Intersectionality has, of course, evolved to incorporate all forms of marginalized identities, as the notion can be applied to many. However, again, it is, and will always be about and for black women.
I would suggest also not speaking over two black women when they talk about their own blackness, it's quite rude and to be honest your entire message sound like you mansplaining intersectionality to the women who need it the most. I think you need to take time and reflect upon why you felt the need to explain to black women, what another black women felt/intended when they created a theory for black women.... it's just odd for you to assume you have the authority on such a subject,
3:02 PM, June 23rd, 2017
Samantha (Host) I was typing this pretty quickly at work,
sorry for the grammar/syntax errors lol
3:04 PM, June 23rd, 2017
Samantha (Host) ****I'd also like to rectify that Adella is a brown woman, so disregard those mentions****
3:11 PM, June 23rd, 2017
Nadella It's worth considering the spirit of intersectionality is not meant to exclude. It's basically human to form sub-groups to exclude others but exclusion is why we end up with biases against groups, people, states of mind.
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Quite interesting show, ladies. However, I just want to right the notion of intersectionality that you offered. Everybody experiences intersectional lives, not only Black people (as per you affirmation that no one should identify as "intersectional" if someone is not a Black woman). This is a misreading of intersectionality. White people have also intersectional lives (i.e. they are white, and (dis)abled, and (un)educated, come from a particular social class, have certain age, have certain sexual orientation and a gender identification, have certain ethnicity; they have access to certain resources and power, etc.). All of these axes differently intersect with each other at various levels, dimensions, circumstances, etc. The same applies to every single person in this world, be it Black, Brown, etc. So, affirming that the root of intersectionality is to "identiying as a Black woman" is incorrect. It is also incorrect to say that someone can identify or not as "intersectional." Everybody experiences intersectionality, but we are not "intersectional." Affirming that someone is intersectional but not others, takes us back to the creation of more identity labels (such as in "Black" women are intersectional, but brown women are not"). Crenshaw's intention was never to develop the notion of intersectionality as another identity label for only Black women. Rather, it was to understand how whiteness operates in social milieus vis-a-vis the social construction of Others under ethnic/racial categories that interact with other elements such as access to power, race/ethnicity, sexuality, gender, etc., and the correspondingly hierarchization of race/ethnicity.
11:23 AM, June 18th, 2017